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two of those ways were taking federal government money and one of them was a state tax. the first way was this 385 million annual payment that then-senator ted kennedy had to negotiate for the safety net hospitals. president george w. bush wanted to end that which set off a panic and led to romney and kennedy going to the bush administration and cutting a deal with them. massachusetts could keep the money if they put it toward a universal health care plan. that's how it got started. romney and kennedy were trying to keep this federal money. they wanted that money. then the state did two other things. they first covered everyone they could cover in their medicaid problem so they could get the most possible match from the federal government. right now federal medicaid from the federal government -- that is an incredible deal for people in massachusetts. they're getting subsidized by the rest of the country. and then the third way romney paid for it is massachusetts had long before romney was governor, imposed a tax in order to reimburse hospitals for the care they provided
two of those ways were taking federal government money and one of them was a state tax. the first way was this 385 million annual payment that then-senator ted kennedy had to negotiate for the safety net hospitals. president george w. bush wanted to end that which set off a panic and led to romney and kennedy going to the bush administration and cutting a deal with them. massachusetts could keep the money if they put it toward a universal health care plan. that's how it got started. romney and...
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listen, cutting all the funding to pbs would not fund the federal government for one hour. that's how small a percentage that is, federal funding for public broadcasting. so swing voters know this isn't serious. they know they aren't hearing serious proposals. >> i want to play for everybody those people who are for president obama, their reaktss after this disappointing show on wednesday. >> i think he could have done better. >> i think that president obama is -- needs to put his gloves on and fight back. >> i didn't know quite what was going on as far as, you know, maybe he's dealing with some crisis in the middle east. >> i think maybe he needs to rest. >> looking for easy excuses for the president there, but for those undecideds around the country, those looking for passion from a candidate, didn't mitt romney display more passion about wanting to get hired for a job? >> yeah. there's no doubt that he had a better night, and everyone has conceded that, including the president's supporters. and i think when you look, the biggest thing to me was the president's closing st
listen, cutting all the funding to pbs would not fund the federal government for one hour. that's how small a percentage that is, federal funding for public broadcasting. so swing voters know this isn't serious. they know they aren't hearing serious proposals. >> i want to play for everybody those people who are for president obama, their reaktss after this disappointing show on wednesday. >> i think he could have done better. >> i think that president obama is -- needs to put...
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we had 600,000 government jobs added in the last two months. we had 873,000 jobs by a household survey, which is a total estimate from 50,000 phone calls. of those 600,000 were temporary workers. chris, these numbers are all a series of assumptions, tons of assumptions, and it just seems somewhat coincidental that the month before the election, the numbers go one tenth of a point below where they were when the president started, although i don't see anything in the economy that says these surges are true. the 873,000 jobs in the household survey is the strongest economy since 1983. i don't think you can find an economist, there were 25 of them this morning that predicted 8.1% to 8.2%, but they did predict 114,000 jobs. we got 114,000 jobs, and somehow the assumptions ended up at 7.8%. >> well, let me get back to your tweet this morning. it must be embarrassing for you to do a tweet now after the power you used to have. i mean, tweeting doesn't seem like something i'd hear from jack welch, and i mean it. here you put out the word, unbelievable j
we had 600,000 government jobs added in the last two months. we had 873,000 jobs by a household survey, which is a total estimate from 50,000 phone calls. of those 600,000 were temporary workers. chris, these numbers are all a series of assumptions, tons of assumptions, and it just seems somewhat coincidental that the month before the election, the numbers go one tenth of a point below where they were when the president started, although i don't see anything in the economy that says these...
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see, the real internet is very dissatisfying to the government of iran. there is all sorts of stuff on the internet the iranian mullahs do not like so they've been busy closing off bits of internet to the iranian public. you can't use google. now you can't use youtube. you can't use specific sites where the government doesn't like what you can read there or what you can see there. they've been doing that forever. kind of playing "whack a mole" with the internet. iran's government is apparently getting tired of managing the increasingly complex patchwork of things they want to block the people in their country from seeing online and so instead they have a genius idea. they are suggesting they may just close off access to the real internet all together and instead build themselves their own internal government approved internet. just for their own country. so it's not really an internet. it is more like an iran-ternet. they will build their own. separate but equal. ridiculous right? but you can understand that sort of controlling dictatorial impulse here th
see, the real internet is very dissatisfying to the government of iran. there is all sorts of stuff on the internet the iranian mullahs do not like so they've been busy closing off bits of internet to the iranian public. you can't use google. now you can't use youtube. you can't use specific sites where the government doesn't like what you can read there or what you can see there. they've been doing that forever. kind of playing "whack a mole" with the internet. iran's government is...
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the royalties alone are worth $750 billion a year to the federal government. fourth, look carefully at what romney said, that the true supply sides don't necessarily love but it's good politics. he said i will close enough deductions that wealthy americans will not get a net tax cut. now, that's a pretty clear description. >> let me just say this. standing on the stage with you in arizona, this is what mitt romney said. number one, i said today we're going to cut taxes on everyone across the country, by 20%, including the top 1%. mr. speaker, you mentioned that your opponent, mitt romney, had a problem with being dishonest in the primary. my question is, was he dishonest when he said that? >> i think it's clear he changed. >> we don't disagree that he changed. >> let me do this. i want to get a break in. there's several different directions we're going to keep going talking about the economy and the aftermath of the debate. and we want to look forward to the next debate, which is biden and ryan. we also want to go inside the numbers with chuck todd for a look
the royalties alone are worth $750 billion a year to the federal government. fourth, look carefully at what romney said, that the true supply sides don't necessarily love but it's good politics. he said i will close enough deductions that wealthy americans will not get a net tax cut. now, that's a pretty clear description. >> let me just say this. standing on the stage with you in arizona, this is what mitt romney said. number one, i said today we're going to cut taxes on everyone across...
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we are corroding trust in our government in a way. one time responsible people are doing to control it. the idea that donald trump and jack welch, rich people with crazy conspiracies can get traction on this. >> ari, i want to talk first about this. we talked about institutional failure. what's happening now is the airing of conspiracy theories as fact. whether or not you choose to believe them. i think it undermined the notion that there even is such a thing as a fact anymore. that was incredibly bold of fox to go forward with the notion that chicago has manipulated the numbers from the bls. there is no questioning on this. >> you see the difference. rush limbaugh was trafficking in conspiracy ideas to lead his audience to the conclusion where sean hannidy got up there and lied. there has always been public discourse. one is the bias where people only listen to what confirms their beliefs. the second is what you would call the big shot bubble which was a big piece and slate talked about this. powerful people with big mega phones who
we are corroding trust in our government in a way. one time responsible people are doing to control it. the idea that donald trump and jack welch, rich people with crazy conspiracies can get traction on this. >> ari, i want to talk first about this. we talked about institutional failure. what's happening now is the airing of conspiracy theories as fact. whether or not you choose to believe them. i think it undermined the notion that there even is such a thing as a fact anymore. that was...
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right back. >>> well, jim, when it comes to jobs, president obama prefers what i call a trickle down government solution. now, my plan is different. it involves 41 basic elements, 6 abrupt reversals of positions, and 3 outright lies. >> we're back. for political comedians the presidential debate is the gift that keeps on giving, and nobody does it better than "saturday night live." this week's show tapped into the zeitgeist of last wednesday's debate, romney stretching the truth and obama not catching him. let's watch. >> the anniversary gift, i can't believe i forgot the anniversary gift. okay. i'll be out of here by 9:00 local time. i'll have the secret service distract michelle while i hit the hotel gift shop for some kind of anniversary present. they had a denver broncos sweatshirt. she might like that. the hotel had some nice bathrobes for sale. that could be good. >> excuse me, governor, mr. president? >> i'm sorry, yeah, yeah. what's up? >> mr. president, governor romney has just said that he killed osama bin laden. would you care to respond? >> no, you two go ahead. >> with me now is li
right back. >>> well, jim, when it comes to jobs, president obama prefers what i call a trickle down government solution. now, my plan is different. it involves 41 basic elements, 6 abrupt reversals of positions, and 3 outright lies. >> we're back. for political comedians the presidential debate is the gift that keeps on giving, and nobody does it better than "saturday night live." this week's show tapped into the zeitgeist of last wednesday's debate, romney stretching...
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security they are uncertain what camp he would fall into and are uncertainly themselves about how he would govern. would he take the lead in bombing iran if the mullahs were getting to close or just back up the israelis one of his senior advises asked. would he push for peace with the palestinians or live with the status quo? he's left himself a lot of wiggle room. if they don't know, who does? >> steve clemons is editor-at-large and david corn has a new book out tomorrow. you broke that story. steve, i'm going to be pretty broad here and just start with my critique of romney. every time he speaks he lists more fronts he wants to get hotter and he wants to stay in longer whether it's afghanistan or iraq, he wants to go in deeper. should have gone in deeper on libya and syria. should be tougher on drawing a bright line earlier than anybody but the israelis in terms of the iranian nuclear threat. everything is go to war, go to war. name anyone in his family history going back or forward who has ever put on a military uniform. they have no intention of participating in all these wars in any way and
security they are uncertain what camp he would fall into and are uncertainly themselves about how he would govern. would he take the lead in bombing iran if the mullahs were getting to close or just back up the israelis one of his senior advises asked. would he push for peace with the palestinians or live with the status quo? he's left himself a lot of wiggle room. if they don't know, who does? >> steve clemons is editor-at-large and david corn has a new book out tomorrow. you broke that...
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they are always dependent on government. that's hard to take back. he can say i apologize for na and i was wrong for saying it, but i believe the damage is done. you can't put the toothpaste back on the tube. >> it took three weeks for three weeks for governor romney to say his remarks are wrong. let me play the evolution from where we got from his initial reaction to where he was last night. >> as i point out, i recognize that among those that pay no tax, approximately 47% of americans, i'm not likely to be highly successful with a message of lowering taxes. it's not he elegantly stated, let me put it that way. i'm speaking off the cuff in response to a question. >> i have a very effective campaign doing a good job, but not everything i say is elegant. >> i'm a president for 100% of the american people. that's the real percent people care about. not 99 versus 1 or 47 versus everyone else. i said something completely wrong. >> the initial remarks caught on tape, some on the right said there was an amen moment and they were happy governor romney said
they are always dependent on government. that's hard to take back. he can say i apologize for na and i was wrong for saying it, but i believe the damage is done. you can't put the toothpaste back on the tube. >> it took three weeks for three weeks for governor romney to say his remarks are wrong. let me play the evolution from where we got from his initial reaction to where he was last night. >> as i point out, i recognize that among those that pay no tax, approximately 47% of...
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>> industrial america can actually respond to government breaks. industrial america would take -- if you allowed this em eed thet money back from overseas with assistance of hiring, they would do it, but the money's all overseas. they're not repate yriated. >> why would you let them bring the money back in and all they'll do it use it for dividends? >> that's what they did under the republicans. they didn't care. they made no deal. these guys would make a deal. if you just committed to saying, listen, you have 10,000 employees now. if you have 12,000 employees a year from now, we are going to let you repatriate. but they've got to put it first. you hire, then you get the money back. because if you give them the money back first, they will just give it to shareholders. >> that's right. >> by the way, there are worse things to do than getting $2 trillion back circulating in the united states. because you know what, the shareholders aren't all gordon gecko. >> 90 million people. >> so i hear these people going, oh! they'll just give the money to share
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you let the federal government spend trillions of dollars, and good things will happen. we republicans disagree with it today. we disagreed with it for the past four years. we've disagreed with it for the past 40 years. so just to say we republicans just want the economy to fail, with all due respect to joe, that's irresponsible. >> i think the president believes in the private sector maybe a little bit more than that. the other thing is, obama, they were saying he tanked the economy going into the election four years ago. and now, of course, he's manipulating the numbers to make it look good, he's pretty good, this obama guy, manipulating the economy. but my feeling is the economy is actually picking up. >> it is. >> we slowed down in the spring, and now it is picking up. housing is up. >> exactly. >> autos up. >> consumer confidence is up. >> consumer confidence is up. union pacific. >> stock market. >> said his traffic on his railroad is up over last year. that's huge. >> you know, i have had a good friend in florida that -- earl durden, late, great earl durden, he ha
you let the federal government spend trillions of dollars, and good things will happen. we republicans disagree with it today. we disagreed with it for the past four years. we've disagreed with it for the past 40 years. so just to say we republicans just want the economy to fail, with all due respect to joe, that's irresponsible. >> i think the president believes in the private sector maybe a little bit more than that. the other thing is, obama, they were saying he tanked the economy...
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it is all about that jobs number, and the fed's commitment to help the government try and get americans back to work here. worth also saying that even though they are optimistic about an improvement in this jobs number, the fed's own economic outlook suggests that we're going to see a few weak quarters going forward, and economic growth doesn't really start to get traction until 2013 into 2015. so we could be treading water for quite some time here. interesting to see what that now means for obama's election campaign as we come up to this big presidential vote. back to you. >> and we will see that number less than three hours from now, the september jobs report. geoff, thanks so much. >>> still ahead this morning on "way too early," a little thursday night football for you with the undefeated arizona cardinals taking on the rams. turns out when your quarterback is sacked eight times, it bodes poorly for your chances. highlights ahead in sports. >>> plus -- >> there is no red america! there is no blue america! there is only the america that can't. believe how bad this guy did in the deba
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>> a lot of people are saying that government is cooking the books here. >> these guys are saying they feel like they cooked the books. >> look, i got to say if you're cooking the books, 7.8% unemployment, get the. [ beep ] recipe. if you're cooking, make something nice for people. hey, unemployment's 2.6%. everybody, we're going to eat! >> ever since mitt romney called out big bird by name at last week's presidential debate, president obama's campaign has been having a lot of fun with it. at a san francisco fund-raiser last night, president obama himself once again drew attention to mr. romney's plan to cut government funding for pbs. >> for all you moms and kids out there, you should have confidence that finally somebody is cracking down on big bird. elmo has been seen in a white suburban. he's driving for the border. oscar is hiding out in his trash can. we're cracking down on them. governor romney's plan is to let wall street run wild again but he's going to bring the hammer down on sesame street. >> the obama campaign now featuring big bird in a new tv ad out this morning. this is
>> a lot of people are saying that government is cooking the books here. >> these guys are saying they feel like they cooked the books. >> look, i got to say if you're cooking the books, 7.8% unemployment, get the. [ beep ] recipe. if you're cooking, make something nice for people. hey, unemployment's 2.6%. everybody, we're going to eat! >> ever since mitt romney called out big bird by name at last week's presidential debate, president obama's campaign has been having a...
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he makes it sound like there's something really wrong getting a check from the government, makes you dependent when you may have worked from age 14 to 65, you get 15, 20 years you have good health, of benefits. that's the deal. that's not bad. why is he doing this? >> seems like they're doubling down again. romney with 47% and ryan with 30%. we're 100%. >> can you remember a time where a political party has carved out a huge part of the country saying we don't like you, we don't respect you, we want to get rid of you with the way you live. >> that's the impression they're leaving. president eisenhower didn't do that, president nixon didn't do that, president reagan made us feel like we were all in it together. >> i've never seen a politician say, i'll take the other part of the vote. i'm not interested in your half, or in this case, 70% he's giving away. >> that's right. i have never heard such language. i think it will allow obama to extend the 47% argument to not only ryan but to the entire republican party. he can say, this is a party that slices and dices the american public. in
he makes it sound like there's something really wrong getting a check from the government, makes you dependent when you may have worked from age 14 to 65, you get 15, 20 years you have good health, of benefits. that's the deal. that's not bad. why is he doing this? >> seems like they're doubling down again. romney with 47% and ryan with 30%. we're 100%. >> can you remember a time where a political party has carved out a huge part of the country saying we don't like you, we don't...